Does the color yellow bother you or do you just not like bikers?

Yellow shirts, jackets, whatever the hell those Tour de Frog winners get. Yes I hate bikers. Their spandex and their arrogance on the road when I try driving my car past their skinny bone butts.

Ah, I get it....you're jealous that they're thin.

I don't know where you're driving, but the last time I saw an arrogant biker was when I was in Midtown Manhattan.

The bikers have as much right to be on the road as do the cars and trucks that tend to think they are the only ones who can drive on the roads. If you have ever been intentially run off the road by a motor vehicle, as I have, you know what I mean. If spitting on people makes you fell better about yourself Craig I would suggest some type of therapy or giving up your drivers license.

Pretty immature Craig. But, I ride my bike on the roads in Waukesha and always carry something with me for people like you...please spit on me. I guarantee you will need a new back window. And...if you get out of your vehicle possibly a ride to the hospital.

You only get bodily fluids when you don't use the path designated for bikes, which is right next to the traffic lanes.

Bikers suck

...and they yielded an abundance of bracelets for other causes. Such a gay fad. I hope they fill up our landfills.

Up his sleeve? That would be a blood transfusion bag.

Seriously?!? He apologized after more than 10 years of lying and even then didn't seem very genuine. He sued and harassed his friends and his teammates when they were telling the truth the whole time and he only gave back his trophies because he was ordered to. I hope he does turn his life around but I don't want him as a role model for our children.

Lance Armstrong is a sociopath. A ruthless, vicious, lying cheat who's done anything & everything in his power to destroy anyone who got in his way. He has destroyed/derailed/financially crippled person after person who spoke the truth about his illicit activities.

He has only admitted to doping instances where the statute of limitations has expired, thus meaning he cannot be prosecuted for those infractions..Or maybe not.

He has also burdened his very young children w/ a lifetime of what? Being bullied (we know how cruel kids can be), being ostracized for what their father did. Maybe they'll become dope fiends just to be able to deal w/ the continued onslaught/reminder of who their father is and what he did to so many people.

I hope that POS is paid back 100fold for all the pain/damage he inflicted on so many because he could and had the resources.

His reasons for "telling the truth" are once again only self serving, calculated and only what was necessary to avert legal ramifications and pave the way for him to be able to participate in sporting events in the future.

Additionally, here's a great article from one of the people in Armstrong's inner circle. Yes, it is one person's view, but has been reiterated by so many others w/ their own experiences who were a part of Armstrong's world.

My Life With Lance Armstrong

I was Lance’s personal assistant for two years, during the height of his racing career. Do I think he cheated? Yep. But my real problem is something that diehard fans seem unable to grasp: the vengeful tactics he uses against people who tell the truth about him, on and off the bike.

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/biking/road-biking/My-Life-With-Lance-Armstrong.html

His accomplishements occurred because he doped/infused oxygenated blood to boost his performance.

You seem to overlook his brutality towards anyone and everyone who crossed him or got in his way. How many people did he decimate personally, professionally as well as financially?

That selective memory of yours must come in handy.

I dont' think $$andSense was condoning his behavior off the race course. You can still condemn that and acknowledge that he was a superior athlete. His performance was enhanced by the doping but, again, at that level, most of his competitors were indulging in the same practice. That's not to excuse what he did, in either case. But you can't just take a your average club rider, give him the same regimen of PEDs and other banned performance enhancing procedures and produce a 7 time Tour de France winner.

Bob-

Anything he did/won/accomplished is not valid when any type of doping/enhancing occurred. The only reason he is a 7 time Tour de France winner is because he lied/cheated/destroyed anyone who got in his way/told the truth. Whether or not he could have won w/out doping, is anyones guess, but if he had been caught in the act then he would have been banned or suspended thus most likely preventing him from participating and "winning" 7 titles in a row.

Greg LeMond is the one who should be admired. Yes, he "Only" won 3 Tour de France titles, but he didn't dope/lie & cheat his way to those titles.

Who's admiring him?

Acknowledging he's a superior athlete isn't the same thing as admiring him. It's acknowledging his skills. He has them. He didn't get to be the calibre racer he is via doping and other extraordinary measures alone.

He may have won, or he may not have. Look into cycling a little deeper and you'll find doping has been a problem, repeatedly, in the sport almost since its inception and that not only some of his teammates, but his opponents have used it as well. Like any other professional sport, there's a lot of money riding on the results and people avert their eyes from abuses like this.

Suggesting that doping is the only thing that got him where he was is not only incorrect, it's dangerous, in that it leaves the impression that a) it's fast track to victory and it's possible to do so without being caught if you don't piss off the wrong people and b) it leaves the impression that he's the only one who was partaking of it and benefitting from it when, in fact, it's a sport-wide problem at his level and even some levels below that.

Bob-

The "Only" reasons he "won" 7 Tour de France titles is because he doped/lied/cheated along w/ the hard work that all of the other elite riders must have also done as their preparations. Yes, others doped, but not all. Yes, others have had their titles stripped but I don't believe any of them have taken to destroying so many people and in as many ways as possible as Armstrong when they were outed /pursued by justice.

Then again, how many of them had the amounts of $$$ behind them riding Armstrons coattails to cash in on the celebrity/sociopath that is Lance Armstrong.

Take away the doping/oxygenated blood transfusions and I think his dominance in the Pyrenees mountain stages, to say the least, of the Tour would have been much different and this is where he won many of the tours.

Nothing he has done counts in my book.

You're not making any sense. You're combining the two issues. You're outraged over the way he treated people. That's understandable. I am too. But you have no way of knowing which of his competitors were doping and which weren't, or if he and all the rest of them didn't, he wouldn't have still won. Take the emotion out of it.

He's been disqualified and his wins have been taken away from him, as they should be, because he broke the rules. The issue of doping goes much deeper than him. It's also worth noting that all this information was known while he was still competing and that while it was possible for him to bribe/intimidate a good number of folks, in order for it to have stayed completely undiscovered (until now) required the cooperation of those who partook of the same activities themselves as well as those who benefitted, financially or otherwise, from not having the information revealed.

Once again, it's impossible to say that doping is the only reason he won. The fact that he did it, and that he got caught after-the-fact, also makes it impossible to say he would have won any of them, had he not. That's why they take the wins away. That's why he is now someone who never officially won the Tour de France. That does not, however, take away form the fact that he is a superior athlete. Doping alone cannot produce the kinds of results Lance Armstrong achieved over his career.

Bob-

I'm not confused at all. He had tested positive during his career. He was just able to get out of it/squash the results. He also pulled the "I'm a cancer survivor, I would never do that to my body " bit.. People were intimidated, blackballed and/or just plain bought whatever he was selling to cover his tracks.

This has been going on for years and years and the tide finally turned and at some point, the last few months there was no turning back as all of the pieces were put together and his house of cards came crashing down.

It doesn't matter to me one bit if he could have won w/out doping because he obviously never tried to win w/out an illegal advantage (at least in France) and did it 7 times in a row in. Everything he has achieved is null & void.

However hard he worked and however long he sacrificed doesn't matter to me one bit. Also, since he has been doping for so many years, possibly into decades, then I guess we'll never really know how good he was except that he was in an elite class of riders who also may or may not have doped as well.

This has been going on for years and years and the tide finally turned and at some point, the last few months there was no turning back as all of the pieces were put together and his house of cards came crashing down.

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And why do you think that was? If someone wasn't benefitting besides just him from all this, his house of cards could have come crashing down at any point. I'll guarantee what he was doing was well known, not only amongst his teammates, but amongst those on competing teams. Connect the dots. It's not that difficult.

Thanks McBride 'cause that is all I was posting. I worked off endorphins and adrenaline we all produce in reaction to a physical challenge when I biked. Armstrong cheated and got caught in a lie about drug use. Shame on him and those he hurt. Biking was my forte at the time and it was a lot of fun with my friends riding along side me through the hills and valleys of SW WI to the Wisconsin river and back. Shame on me for Nuitari’s condemnation of my once being a biker in the truest sense, not the gasoline driven type.

Lois

If you are a parent, then you should guide your children to never adore any politician, athlete, actor, artist, performer, etc. Do you and your husband let the media set the stage for morality and guidance for the young and impressionable, or do you take personal initiative and set your own your parents gave to you? It is your choice. Personal responsibility like common sense is becoming rare these days.

Brandon-

Your respect is misguided. Lance Armstrong only admitted to doping where the statute of limitations had passed ie enough time had passed that he could not be prosecuted for those instances.

Though, there is evidence that Mr. Armstrong doped/cheated during his 2009 comeback.

Have you read any articles pertaining to this whole sordid situation?

"Travis Tygart 60 Minutes interview: Lance Armstrong lied to Oprah"

"Lance Armstrong came clean to Oprah Winfrey about his use of blood doping products during the seven straight years he won the Tour de France, but U.S. Anti-Doping Agency CEO Travis Tygart tells CBS’ 60 Minutes that he didn’t tell the full truth.

Tygart says Armstrong did dope upon his return to cycling in 2009, and he was a heavy user of EPO, not a small one, as he claimed to Oprah. He also said he wrote a letter to Armstrong, saying he has a deadline of Feb. 6 to cooperate fully to USADA's investigation in exchange for possibly reducing the length of his lifetime ban from sports. An attorney for Armstrong told USADA that the cyclist cannot accommodate the Feb. 6 deadline, but the cyclist will cooperate with efforts to "clean up cycling." It's just that they believe the sport's governing body and world anti-doping officials should take the lead in the cleanup....."

http://aol.sportingnews.com/sport/story/2013-01-25/travis-tygart-60-minutes-interview-lance-armstrong-lying-doping-usada-ceo