"•An 81-year-old Menomonee Falls man was slapped across the face by his 41-year-old wife"

Are you she wasn’t just trying to resuscitate him?

In an abusive relationship, both are at fault.

The issue of domestic violence goes beyond political affiliation. This is and has been a significant social issue that shouldn't be discounted. It is time that we seriously address the issue of domestic violence. The first thing that needs to be done is to disarm domestic violence perpetrators.

Wrong! Lyle. A majority of domestic abuse is an isolated outburst and not a pattern of destructive behavior. My good friend was involved in a domestic violence dispute a few Sunday's ago. His wife was attacking him and he tried to remove her from the house away from the kids. Due to the way it looked when the police arrived and the phone call made to the police, they arrested my friend even though his wife told the police that she was the aggravator and she was attacking him. She begged the police to take her instead because she knew it was her fault. The police took my friend away. The couple was not allowed to see each other until his court case on November 1st. The wife felt terrible, it was her fault. The woman had no injuries, he simply pushed her out of the house but did not hit her in anyway, she was hitting him and he was ducking away from her punches. Many women are unstable like this and the man always loses in this situation. To remove a mans right to own a firearm is unjust punishment. The right to bare arms should NEVER be infringed.

I think the recent killings in Brookfield pointed out that if the Brown Deer police officials had enforced the current law, a tragedy may very well have been avoided.

The problem is not that the laws are too lax --- it is that they are not enforced.

One aspect of the current law is that with a domestic conviction the person loses their rights to own a gun. This should not be automatic --- a judge should determine if firearms were ever involved.

It is something that women often use as a claim to hold power over their husband, especially if he is a hunter. And it does not do anything to prevent someone from buying a firearm anyway --- anyone who wants to score some drugs, or guns, or most anything illegal, can probably find a buyer and make the purchase in many neighborhoods that we all know about.

Another aspect of the domestic violence aspects is when a couple is getting a divorce --- false reports are often made to bolster a party's chance of gaining full custody.

We don't need stricter laws, we need better enforcement of the laws we have --- and we also need a procedure to follow up on false reports that are filed to either punish a spouse or gain control, or in custody disputes --- false reports need to be punished so that the police have less need into consideration whether a report is being made falsely, as many are.

Humans kill humans. Always have always will. Exercise your right to own and carry personal defense. Especially when known threats exist.

Humans repeat the same philosophies over and over without questioning. That is the way its always been.... always will be this way. Instead of thinking black and white, is it possible we can work towards killing FEWER HUMANS...please? Making fewer guns? Limiting who we sell them too...maybe doing some checks on people before handing them weapons designed to kill humans...etc? Humans have done lots of stupid things for thousands, even tens of thousands of years. Is that the bar you want to set perpetually? Humans used to own humans with impunity. That was changed. It used to be legal to kill your wife if you caught her with another man. Child labor was fine...always had been..... I get so tired of that lame justification for all sorts of destructive or non-progressive action (inaction).

Johnny Paycheck...not all men are ingrained not to hit women. Frequently male perps saw their fathers beat their mothers. They were taught that this was how you keep those females in line. Some cultures insist that the women EXPECT to be beaten...as if its justifiable! Add to this that this is a very violent culture that ennobles violence as a way to solve issues. "Controlling one's woman," is a widespread value... even if it requires violence. Remember Bogarts... "never seen a dame that cant take a slap in the face or a slug from a 44?" That crazy shit is still around.

"You just have to accept that some have more and varied live experience, are much better read and are more competent researchers.".... ahhhh, dear ol crazy Lyle describing himself. All I see is the ultimate liberal elitist....or....charlatan

JP understand what you are talking about all too well. I grew up learning what you learned in this regard and have honored it without exception even when attacked. Leaving is a good idea. Get out. If your way is blocked, do so with as little contact or force as possible...moving the person aside. Get help. I know about the police slant as well and imagine that it's quite a challenge in any domestic dispute to try to determine who is the perp. Very challenging....justice is not always served.

The problem does exist. People do lie. The amount of money to go to court and have police involved is such a waste of tax payer money! I don't have any good ideas for how to weed out the victims in need of help and people who have other motives. We almost always have to give the benefit of the doubt to the alleged victim, because there is not a great way of accurately determining truths in the couple of minutes the officer makes a decision to arrest the accused or let them go. I am sure that many true abusers have slipped through the criminal/court system as well. Unfortunately the innocent suffer because of truly abusive people. My advise is try to avoid unstable people in your life, and if you can afford it, hire a good attorney, because this is how the game seems to be played.

Mnadatory stay in jail until first court date. No bail out on charges. Psycholgical test of the ofender. Since cops got to take them to get a job, send the offenders for one, so the spouse can see the loser make up of her mate. Public effort on educating women and men on mate selection. Do not hook up with a needy or controlling human partner. Mandatory billing to households that call the police for repeat calls of domestic problems because THEY TOOK THE SMUCK BACK. Mandatory backing of the police when they kick the crap out of the offender and save your butt.

Laws and penalties seem useless in preventing crimes of passion. Restraining orders fail. Seems to me toughening laws would be ineffective. It would be more prudent to address domestic violence by teaching coping skills, effective communication strategies, parenting skills, addressing poverty, the equality of women and men, and more. Plus, it would be helpful to expect this approach to work while realizing it may take a few generations. Violence is ingrained in our society, and it will take time to unlearn it.

This could've been prevented from getting this far.

It's just that you never think it'll happen until it does.

We don't need tougher laws. We need laws applied more appropriately. At this time, sometimes laws are enforced because a situation presents and its an easy arrest. That stinks. No effort exerted to be tougher on crime, just an opportune arrest that rips families apart. On the other hand there are situations where there could be more protection and women or men get killed or seriously injured when the abuse was known. Education and prevention are key and then some discretion not "mandatory arrest" that is over-applied on the cases where it was an argument but one partner knows there will be an arrest made so they make the call and meet the cops at the door.