Voting at Schools: Should it Stop?
Port Washington-Saukville School Board members discussed several ways to make the district safer during a Building and Grounds Committee meeting on Monday night — among them, supporting the end of using district buildings as polling locations.
Buildings in the Port Washington-Saukville School District will soon be using a camera and buzzer system for monitoring foot traffic through its schools as part of an effort to beef up safety and security after tragedy shook an elementary school in Newtown, CT, in December.
The change from the currently unlocked front entrances is just one of several safety issues discussed during a Building and Grounds Committee meeting on Monday night. Board members and district administrators also discussed continued practice in responding to emergency situations — such as table top exercises and an increase in lockdown drills with students — and expressed strong concerns with continuing to use district buildings for voting days.
"To do voting the way we have been, we're not comfortable with that," Superintendent Michael Weber said.
Two buildings in the Port Washington-Saukville School District — Dunwiddie Elementary and Thomas Jefferson Middle School — are currently used as polling locations during elections in Port Washington. The fact that these buildings are wide open to the public for these days has been a concern of the past, but the conversation about school safety thrust the issue to the foreground.
Weber said his at-minimum recommendation would be that the board request police presence at those two schools on voting days, but some board members were quick to suggest that they fully supported stopping the practice.
"For me, this (decision) is really easy," board member Sarah McCutcheon said of disallowing voting to take place in the schools. "I think there's another way that we can teach our kids about voting besides opening our doors and having (such public interaction) … I have absolutely no [reservations] about saying the time has come for us to find (a new place)."
While the fact that the voting days could be seen as an educational opportunity was discussed, many felt that function had been lost.
"I think (voting in the schools is) something we really need to think about — I don't think its an educational opportunity any more," board member Brian McCutcheon said. "And it's sad — it's a sad thing that it can't be used for that … that we have to think about security during voting. But, I think we do."
Board members also expressed concern about the traffic congestion that is created on voting days — and the potentially dangerous situations that creates.
"Even on a good day, the traffic can be (bad) … people not watching (for kids)," Sarah McCutcheon said. "Then add all those voting people."
School Board President James Eden said he agreed that traffic was an issue, and likely a more pressing one when it comes to safety.
"When we talk about safety we keep talking about the really ... (about the) once-in-a-trillion chance that something could happen in the building. I think (the board's) safety concern of the outside traffic is a more likely occurrence," Eden said.
Buzzers, cameras a quick fix
Installing the buzzers and cameras on the school entrances is a quick fix to an issue that requires a long-term look, officials said. While the technology will require some attention from office staff, officials felt the change wouldn't have too big of an impact.
"It may happen that they have to wait a minute … but for the most part, (the office is) covered well," Dunwiddie Elementary Principal Diane Johnson said.
"It's going to be a change for how we manage and operate … but it will increase security, and we will know who's coming into the buildings — and we’ll have an opportunity to allow or disallow someone," Superintendent Michael Weber said.
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In the long-term, the district has been taking advice from School Board Member Brenda Fristch — who works as an architect — regarding possible redesigns to the front entrances that would add indoor waiting areas for visitors while keeping the public blocked from the school unless granted access.
"Our goal was to limit access into school during school hours but still offer a warm and inviting area," said Director of Business Services Jim Froemming, who also works closely on maintaining the District Crisis Manual. The suggested changes would not make "major structural" changes to any of the buildings.
Practice makes prepared
Students participate in fire and lockdown drills district-wide — and officials said the number of lockdown drills has been increased since the December tragedy in Connecticut.
On top of that, officials have participated in some mock-emergency training drills with local emergency management teams and also plan to practice policies using table top exercises.
Johnson recalled participating in a mock shooting situation several years ago, citing the exercise as helpful.
"We were a part of watching them proceed through the building, and then … I went to the police department and they started shooting questions at you," she said, asking for answers about the number of kids in each class, the number absent, which doors are open, etc. "They start making you a part of that conversation so that if it really happened, you would be ready."
Johnson said there are so many variables that you could likely be prepared for, so the more you practice the better you'll be at handling a variety of situations — and that includes the kids.
"The more we practice with our kids, the less scared they’ll be. We practice fire drills every month — and our kids are so good at it. They can be as good in (lockdown drills)," she said.
Port Washington Police Chief Kevin Hingiss said the department has recently participated in lockdown drills with the schools, observing and offering feedback on the procedures being practiced. A message left with Saukville Police Chief Bill Meloy was not immediately returned.
"We've offered our services not only to the public schools but also to the private schools — basically to help them in any way that we can," Hingiss said, adding the important part of emergency response is a consistent plan, and training on that plan.
"From our perspective, we have to be trained and have a plan — and it helps that the school has a plan, and knows what we're going to do so that we're on the same page," he said, "God forbid (something horrible) does happen."
School officials also stressed reworking the District Crisis Manual, and making sure all schools operate consistently. The School Board holds its meetings the second Monday of each month, meeting next at 6 p.m. Feb. 11. The discussion about safety in the schools is ongoing.
MB
6:47 am on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
Years ago when I volunteered at TJ, I thought this could be a potential problem. All other days, the schools would have safety issues in place - certain doors locked, every visitor checking in at the office, etc...But on election day, anyone and everyone are coming in. I was at TJ one election day and didn't realize how much interaction there was. The library was a busy place with students and voters! The pollworkers were stationed inside the library and there was no one in the hallway by entrance doors watching to see if incoming adults went right to the library. At class change, it got really hectic. I remember thinking - with all the talk about strangers and safety, I can't believe they still allow all these people at once into the schools.
Tom Kamenick
7:15 am on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
This is the problem with politicians. Yes, you look at a situation like lots of people coming to vote in a school. I think it's reasonable to look at that and think, "Yes, I could see a potential danger there." But then they stop there, instead of going on to the next step and testing that hypothesis.
People have been voting in schools across the country for a really long time. If this really poses a danger, there should be lots of violent incidents in schools across the country on voting day to prove it. If there's not, then your gut reaction was wrong, and your decisions should reflect that.
Kathy
8:05 am on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
Pay Attention please. I am in a wheelchair and every time I vote at TJMS as I enter the alarm buzzes. Not once has anyone EVER come over and checked my chair, NOT ONCE. I can stand and walk, not long or far but I can do it so IF I had guns stashed I could do some damage. Time to wake up Mayberry! This is not the time to wait until something does happen, these are our children.
Greg Huegerich
10:14 am on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
Do the schools receive any sort of stipend for hosting the voting? Does potential lost revenue cost them in terms of what they're able to offer? Or would increased security for voting offset any revenue gained?
Saukville's practice of using either the legion hall or the YMCA has seems to work quite well. I'd imagine it would't be too difficult to find some alternative locations.
Greg
11:07 am on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
Schools are a much too dangerous place to vote!
Tom Kamenick
6:48 am on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Do you have any proof of that, or is it just a hypothesis? Given the attention violence in the schools gets in the media, I would expect I would have heard about any serious incidents that had happened on voting day in schools somewhere across the country, but I haven't. That leads me to suspect they are very rare.
Greg
12:43 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Tom, You are correct.
It is a hypothesis, based on the overreaction to school shootings. Since there is no evidence that voting at schools endangers students and we know that there have been shootings at schools, the logical conclusion linking voting and schools is that the voters would be in danger.
This conclusion makes at least as much sense as any other one out there. There is also the option of suspending the "Gun Free Zone" at schools, used for voting, during elections. More citizens in the school could very well deter a shooter and this effect may be multiplied if the citizens had the potential to be armed.
Am I saying that these are answers? No, but the issues are more complex than can be solved with emotional reaction.
Joanne
8:11 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
Never should have started. Port has enough public places to use for voting.
Kathy
8:25 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Emotional driven responses?
What type of evidence what any person need to show the need for some change in this area? There is little security. I stated that in a wheelchair I set alarm off and never checked.
There is now already an issue at some of the schools, the children feel unsafe because of bullying issues. Many districts have truant officers on campus, as I understand this district slow to respond for various reasons. I am 48 yrs old, it is a different era for our children. As a teen my generations issues; teen pregnancy, eating disorders and drinking. the school board turned a blind eye despite four girls in my class being knocked up, a few eating disorders(one suicide)and five dead within a year of graduation due to drinking related incidents. Nope no problems. That was 1983. Is it emotional? You bet! This is not a question of chicken little yelling "the sky is falling" just for attention. Lunatics with guns are opening fire in public and in our schools, the odds of it happening in this district are probably slim BUT if...IF it was to happen do we want to reflect about what could have been done and why it was not?
Greg
11:34 am on Friday, January 25, 2013
The sky is falling! The odds of a school having an airplane crash into it are probably thousands of times higher than having a school shooting, by someone that gained access to the school due to polling location. The plane crashes have happened, yet nothing is being done to protect the children. Should we ground all aircraft during school hours? Should we hold school in underground bunkers?
No, those would be overreaction, yet they make more sense than relocating the polls based on the information that we have.
Workplace shootings are extremely common. If you are looking to prevent school shootings, would it not make more sense to focus on school employees? The term "going postal" was not coined due to shootings by people who were dropping off letters at the post office. It was coined due to disgruntled employees. I do not have a crystal ball, but I have seen some upset Government sector employees lately.
As I stated above, these are not the answers. I just think that there is a bigger picture that requires honest evaluations.