In several recent blogs I have started conversations about guns and violence ... two themes that are very important to me as a peace activist and as a father.
Conceal Carry seems like a bad idea to me ... Evidently one can conceal quite a few weapons to go by the recent theater shooting. The knee-jerk reaction/theory that had there been more guns flashing in Colorado, so many would NOT have died, begs the question: What if there had been no guns at all?
The nuclear arms race proves that more weapons with more killing power does not produce peace. Maybe the new generation has forgotten what most of us finally acknowledged relative to nukes and ultimate weapons (remember the Star Wars program?). Some will say, "Well no one used nukes,"(after we demonstrated them on two cities). "Big guns DO bring peace ... "
The fact is, however, that the second half of last century continued to be one of horrible wars, genocides, state terrorism and invasions. The nukes only brought us to the edge of annihilation ... and we came very very close. Gun promoters and enthusiasts often point out that guns do not kill people, people kill people.
This is an interesting point and it has an amount of merit. One thought I have often had in response to this argument is, "Yes, guns are just what people make to kill people with." Anyone who would rather be in a movie theater being threatened my a man with a 100 mag assault weapon than in one with a man brandishing a knife, should have their head checked. Anyone who believes the two situations are comparable, as each has a would-be murderer in the room, should review the personal stories by survivors of .
Assault weapons and even Glocks with big clips are weapons of mass destruction ... on a personal level. The killing potential of a weapon is what makes one "superior" to another and I will take sticks and stones to bullets any day. The seed of truth in the point gun-lovers make, mentioned above, is that there is a mind behind most gun fatalities (excluding the accidental deaths) and I certainly agree on this point.
Killing is in the mind first.
Christ, among others, told us this when he said that if you hate another person you have already broken the commandment, "thou shalt not kill," a commandment, by the way, that had no clauses following it. Killing happens first in the mind. When I read about this shooting, beyond the nearly useless amount of empathy I have for the survivors, and the sadness that thinking about the individual victims described in news stories, I am saddened also for our culture ... We are a culture of killers, to be frank.
The U.S. has no monopoly on killing so those among you who think I am anti-American for pointing out our militancy miss the point. I believe in peace and know that you can not create peace from violence or from the threat of the same. History proves this again and again. Over two hundred million dead from wars and conflicts in the twentieth century clearly make the case that no peace came from more weapons. This is enough people to make a belt around the planet, laying them head to toe, over six times! Violence prompts vengeanceance, fear, hatred ... not to mention suffering and death, but it does not bring peace.
The reason physical violence can never bring peace is to be found in the truth that killing is in the mind. More violence provokes more anger ... more mind killing. With a mindset of killing, condoning vengeance and accepting violence as a necessary and vital part of what it is to be human, the "war" is perpetuated in our minds and is easily provoked. Carrying this ember of war in our minds and hearts, protecting it, ensuring it always glows, we are ever ready to have it fanned by the next crisis that arises, the next orator who can whip up our anger and fear, the next excuse for venting our discontent. War is in our minds.
To move towards peace, to move towards a culture where six year old girls or presidents are not slaughtered in theaters, we have to get to the origin of war, to the place where designs for war (and designs for Smith and Wessons) are born. We have to look at our fear, personally and nationally. We have to look at the anger we hold towards our enemies (our brothers and sisters).
We need leaders who can address these issues courageously ... honestly assessing the state of affairs in this culture of violence. It is not coincidental that stories from survivors mentioned that often they could not distinguish between the real gunfire and the gunfire in the movie playing ... We have raised the intake of violent images to a great height, spending millions to see spectacles of violence like the Dark Knight Rises .... We bring our children to see highly graphic images of slaughter and tell them it is entertainment. We are addicted to war and as with any addiction, breaking it will first require dealing with the psychological reasons, the thoughtsand emotions, that led us to this state of severe imbalance.
Please do not post a mustachioed photo of yourself in a catsuit and weapons strapped all over your hairy chest.
How many shootings have happened in Milwaukee alone these past months? Has the number been changed by the concealed carry law?
Oh really? Just as there are some people who think they are Clint Eastwood and really shouldn't be shooting their guns in public, there are people who think they are Mario Andretti and shouldn't even be driving. In both cases, someone else's toddler can be hit. The idea is not to penalize all the responsible gun owners and drivers. It's to discourage the attitude that equates guns and fast cars with a portion of the male anatomy. And maybe, just maybe, discuss how we can limit a lunatic's ability to spray a crowded public place with a plethora of bullets in a very short time.
So Greg-a-Fact rates your comment a half-false.
I didn't stay in the active military for nearly 10 years so that I would have to come home and carry weapons .for protection. BTW, I am a trained clinician and if you would have come before me while I was practicing in the Navy, you'd never get close to a firearm again.
How is it that a real man needs a weapon to defend anything? I was raised to believe (and still do) that those who need weapons to make their point are the cowards. It is a real coward who needs a DEADLY weapon to fight their battles, instead of taking their lumps and learning a lesson or two. Instead, those who carry a weapon have a sense of invincibility which can only lead to more trouble. I'd rather take a bullet to defend my family, than to carry around a gun because I am afraid.
Mr. Ruble is probably being more speculative, gathering assumptions about your psychological make up from the context of your writings. Either way it seems like you may have an unfounded high regard for your abilities; as a marksman and a writer.
Please google the term "right"
I dont know where I am controlling a world with socialism or proposing it by suggesting that idiots should not have the right to access assault weapons with 100 clip mags.... That is not a hunting set up. You folks who need to kill deers with AKs... knock yourselves out...but why not try IEDs...too? And dont you need to be able to protect yourselves with landmines...maybe mine your yard? Now there is an idea! But there ARE limitations put on us...like speed limits in this country... not by socialists or lefties... by rational people. "Easy answer. They feel their superior intellect can produce a utopian peace. That evil and hatred are purely manifestations of ignorance that their wisdom has been able to overcome. Hence, if they controlled the ignorant masses (ie socialism) then the world will become a better place....JB"
http://gma.yahoo.com/women-survived-theater-shooting-grieve-hero-boyfriends-215438672--abc-news-topstories.html Isn't funny how the "cowards" without guns that night made the ultimate sacrifice to save the lives of the people they were with. Those guys that took a bullet to save their loved ones are the real men.
The idea of the firearms myth have been actively promoted by the firearms manufacturers and the NRA is nothing but a shill for that same group. Firearms are tools designed for specific purposes. They haven't been designed to compensate for peoples' personal inadequacies; they are marketed as such.
Lets apply your rational intellect to speed limits. What is their purpose, to protect life? Since a new study finds that traffic deaths are up 13.5% this year over last, are they really doing their job. What makes this speed limit imposed on us the safe one? Considering it is 65 on the expressway and we are allowed to drive about ten over that prior to handing out traffic violations, how effective is that law? Couldn't the same safety on the roads by attained through better instruction during drivers Ed? The same is true with guns. Please provide the ratio of deaths between the number of 100 round mag owned vs. number of people killed by a gun having a 100 round mag. A rational person would see that this random act of violence was not stoppable by legislation. Two of the largest massacres committed by an individual with a gun were down in countries with the most restrictive gun control laws (Australia and Norway). You are attempting to pull conclusions from the incident that are not rational. In a world were evil exists, the only peace gained by disarmament is absolute control by the wicked. Not unlike the assumed safety a speed limit provides, gun control only restricts the trained, lawful citizen. Controlling the lawful in an attempt to create peace thorough government imposed equality, sounds like a socialist agenda to me. Lastly, no one would use an IED for deer, that dumb. They are used for fishing.
trained driver.So... A mix of regulations and training area good combo. On the road, another one is you can't be driving a frigging dragster or a NASCAR vehicle or an armored HUmvee. Why not? A. Why would you need to? B. They could endanger the lives ofotherdrivers. It's not a perfect metaphor for gun regulation...but it's not without value.To put it another way... You don't want to drive on a highway next to mentally distracted people like myself, if there is NO limit. Kill mo Fish!
Tucson shooting victims want SOMETHING done. Very Germaine to the conversation here.