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Premises for a Healthier World?

An attempt to determine some basic assumptions that provide foundations for cooperation among humankind.

1. "Reality" is a subjective perception. It is not fully accessible. There is no one accessible true reality. Humans are limited to using their own perceptual abilities, and these are, by nature, specific to that human. They are necessarily, then, limited, biased, conditioned by education and subject to great misunderstanding.

2. Due to the subjectivity of all human perceptions, it is remarkable that we agree upon almost anything. However, it turns out that we have many common general  interests. Among them are the desire for a “good life” of some sort, the desire to be loved and/or respected,  a desire for family of some sort, and usually a desire to contribute something to our community or culture. These may manifest in a variety of forms.

3. We are social animals. We are interdependent by design or nature, needing others in order to achieve more complex goals. While a few of us may be able to survive off the land … most need, and see the value of, a life with higher goals than survival … hence … we learn we must interact with others in mutually beneficial ways. In short, we learn that we need help to do many things and that we need to help others if we hope to be helped ourselves.

4. Expanding in scale from the simple perceptions one, two and three … we may see that all people depend on one another … that all people have subjective perceptions of Reality, that all people must interact with one another in mutually supportive fashion so that all people may have at least a modest chance for a comfortable life and general happiness.  

5. Recognizing that reality is and can only be perceived in a subjective manner, we necessarily have to give up the notion that OUR REALITY IS REALITY. Our reality is an image we create in our minds, highly colored by our experience, early and ongoing education (informal as important as formal), the zeitgeist of our culture, our specific immediate interests, long-range goals, etc. Comprehending this deeply, we can leave off with the age old effort to try to get everyone to believe exactly what we do, see exactly what we see and admit that our version of reality is THE TRUTH. It cannot happen, will not happen and world wars are the extension of this ridiculous mission to get people to submit to MY PERCEPTION AND TO MY VIEW OF WHAT SHOULD BE!

6. Rather, time is productively spent finding ways where your perception and mine are compatible, where yours might enhance or extend mine and vice versa, where I can learn from you and you from me. We may look for ways where we can support one another, focusing more on what we have in common than on what divides us. Importantly, accepting that we are different instead of trying to force everyone into our pattern… we can come to appreciate the diversity, and find ways in which all the variations of human manifestations can co-exist in healthy, mutually sustaining, creative and productive ways.

I think the six premises listed provide a basis for individual, small group and macro scale interactions, if understood, adopted and maintained.  What would be your handful of operative premises for a better planet, for better relationships? What do you think of these six?

Brian Carlson September 28, 2012 at 12:23 am
Terry, I will bear what you say in mind. Glad that my cooking helped....I admit I don't write rough drafts of anything.... including blogs. I should I guess. I don't propose that my six premises are the best... But I feel that something in this vein is fundamental to mutually beneficial change. I am hoping to hear some refinements, additions, and thoughts about how these may apply in real life social interactions.
Relative to adopting.... I guess we adopt what we believe will be effective or seems as though it will be. So the premises need to be broadly disseminated... Social media is a new possibility for broad circulation. The goal is education... To educate children in the skills of collaboration, perhaps arbitration, and to the interdependent nature of our global community. It's about raising consciousness and, obviously, these ideas are not original.... They come from various religions and philosophies, from psychology, etc. Adaptation can't be forced.... My take is that the attractive power of effective truths (human truths mind you), should sell them. In practice however, they can be applied to the structure of public education, used in religious education, promoted in family therapy and self help type books, etc. I imagine that business could use these ideas as well... They apply to any situation that requires more than one human working towards a goal.
Craig September 28, 2012 at 01:37 am
Hey Brian, at first I thought this may be too deep for my thinking. I tend to believe that everyone has an agenda, so I was cautious about commenting here.
For someone with mental illness who hears voices, that is their reality- but we know it is not real...Our perception of reality tells us that dogs do not talk to us, but for some people the voices are reality? I think I can understand your points, but I can't agree with number 2. Not everyone wants to be happy. Some people want to be angry and lash out at anyone. They want anything but peace because in their reality they only feel good when fighting or watching others suffer. I dig the notion that accepting reality is different for each of us may lead to a higher understanding and evolution of the human brain.
Luke September 28, 2012 at 03:25 am
I've been waiting 30 years to work Norwood Russell Hanson into a conversation. Now if I could only find a way to include Paul Feyerabend.
Perhaps I still have a chance........
Brian Carlson September 28, 2012 at 11:37 am
Craig, to your point about the second premise.... What you say seems to be true. As a formed person, many people do seems to like nothing more than criticizing others, putting people down and even abusing them phyysically. But the argument is similar to this who object to my ideas about peace only coming through peaceful means. They say, thinking about a present day situation, if someone comes at me with a gun and might kill me.... I will shoot him first. Therefore...violence is necessary because there are violent people in the world. I am taking a longer range attitude and am saying....those angry people you mentioned were probably raised by angry people, abusive, distant, etc. This is largely learned...it is a disorder that occurred when trying to adapt to some sort of traumatic situation(s). So, if we wre educated....we will learn these premises, live by them and teach them. No overnight success here...it takes several generations for new paradigms to be broadly accepted and applied. This however does not make it pointless nor is the time between now and then wasted. It improves, it is a time of increasing collaboration, of large social movements for peace, for universal education, for collaborative and sustainable solutions. I may be largely talking to the wind here...cynics will say so.... But I saw a peace movement end an unjust and unnecessary war when I was young. we have seen the draw down of nuclear weapons. I know minds can change with education.
Brian Carlson September 28, 2012 at 11:44 am
With the exception of two masked men who characterized this blog as navel gazing and jumbo jumbo, I have not yet heard from my normal respondents who bring in the perspective of conservatives and the right. I would like to know what your premises are for a healthier world and how they align with your social ideas, policy preferences, etc. Do not consider myself to represent the left here nor liberals....as I seriously do not understand the consensus definition of those terms. I imagine, however that many consider me to be a liberal...judging by comments in past blogs. So...what about it? What foundational thoughts do you see as imperative to a healthier world in the future?
Brian Carlson September 28, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Luke, I will see if I can find these writers at the library. Good example of the power of ideas....they had you thinking for thirty years!
Brian Carlson September 28, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Hanson was not the first to recognize the conceptual component in observation. Heisenberg reported that in 1926 Einstein had told him that it is the theory that decides what the physicist can observe. And in 1959 Popper wrote in his book, Logic of Scientific Discovery that scientific observation is always in the light of theories, and in his book Objective Knowledge (1972) Popper said that observation is "theory-impregnated". Luke I just ordered his book from Amazon. Thanks..... I have been telling drawing students for thirty years not to draw what they think they see, or want to see....but to draw what they DO SEE. The language is limiting but this is an aim I believe I have a good success rate with in my courses. There are presets with our system of logic as well as with theories. Of course logic contains theories but we are so saturated with this type of thinking (regardless of how we adopt it) that the possibility that truths function outside of it's structures is almost impossible to grasp. Case in point..... Time. It seems to us to be incontrovertibly linear proceeding from past to present and on to future. Yes there has been no concrete proof that this is so. Many cultures conceived of cyclic time and particle physics seems to run into examples that imply all time happens "at the same time," to put it simply. Anyway...as this applies here: if we expect nothing will change for the better, thatbis what we will see, regardless of the unfolding of events.
Craig September 28, 2012 at 04:50 pm
I agree with you Brian. I do think society is on the verge of substantial improvement or utter chaos. We have a choice.
With the advent of smart phones and the world wide web, I see a time when we will have instant knowlege capability. Perhaps this will lead us to a new enlightenment period. As for World peace- we are generations away from that.
GearHead September 28, 2012 at 07:45 pm
Brian, the world is conducted according to who has the biggest guns. To think otherwise is dangerously naive. Just hope the good guys continue to hold the biggest guns. That is reality.
Thanks for the dismissive swipe, btw. Free thought really isn't encouraged in your blog, is it? Pretty much like the average faculty lounge.
Brian Carlson September 28, 2012 at 09:23 pm
Gear head..your posts haven't included a lot of thought. The one I was responding to contained a dismissal, you say you are laughing at me and then say I am navel gazing. Do you expect to be taken seriously after insulting someone? Anyone? The blog is about ideas for the betterment of the planet.... Do you have any? If so...please freely add them. Beyond that I see no content relative to the blog. Now you have added your theory that the biggest guns rule the show. yes...this is the current paradigm. I am talking about changing it to something like, the wisest lead...respect is due in accordance to how much one does to help others...or one's country does....to how collaborative you are. I don't own these ideas but I like them. Do you like your big gun world? Are you happy to pass it on to your children and grandchildren...a world barely discernible from the most primitive of cultures except in degree of killing technology and scale of lethal power? If so you MUST be damn glad you were born in what is currently the largest empire the world has ever seen, but remember....empires always fall.
GearHead September 28, 2012 at 09:36 pm
If our empire falls, there is no hope for the world. It always is no more than a step away from barbarism, save not for the USA.
Brian Carlson September 28, 2012 at 09:40 pm
GH....What did you think of the British Empire? I would guess many of them thought the same as it waned.
Brian Carlson September 28, 2012 at 09:42 pm
As to barbarism....how do you see the phosphorus bombing of Fallujah, the routine use of torture by our forces and the CIA, assassinations a method of foreign policy...support of ruthless dictators, etc?
Brian Carlson September 28, 2012 at 09:43 pm
What is carpet bombing if not barbarism and large scale terrorism?
Brian Carlson September 28, 2012 at 09:51 pm
But now new information has surfaced, including hideous photographs and videos and interviews with American soldiers who took part in the Fallujah attack, which provides graphic proof that phosphorus shells were widely deployed in the city as a weapon.
In a documentary to be broadcast by RAI, the Italian state broadcaster, this morning, a former American soldier who fought at Fallujah says: "I heard the order to pay attention because they were going to use white phosphorus on Fallujah. In military jargon it's known as Willy Pete. "Phosphorus burns bodies, in fact it melts the flesh all the way down to the bone ... I saw the burned bodies of women and children. Phosphorus explodes and forms a cloud. Anyone within a radius of 150 metres is done for." Photographs on the website of RaiTG24, the broadcaster's 24-hours news channel, www.rainews24.it, show exactly what the former soldier means. Provided by the Studies Centre of Human Rights in Fallujah, dozens of high-quality, colour close-ups show bodies of Fallujah residents, some still in their beds, whose clothes remain largely intact but whose skin has been dissolved or caramelised or turned the consistency of leather by the shells. A biologist in Fallujah, Mohamad Tareq, interviewed for the film, says: "A rain of fire fell on the city, the people struck by this multi-coloured substance started to burn, we found people dead with strange wounds, the bodies burned but the clothes intact."
Brian Carlson September 28, 2012 at 09:52 pm
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/us-forces-used-chemical-weapons-during-assault-on-city-of-fallujah-514433.html
Are we not barbaric? And yet I would guess a tiny percentage of Americans even know the name Fallujah much less what we did there.
Lyle Ruble September 28, 2012 at 09:56 pm
@Brian Carlson...I wouldn't waste my time with GearHead if I were you. He only wants to flame people who he doesn't agree with.
GearHead September 28, 2012 at 10:19 pm
I haven't flamed anyone, Lyle. Sheesh, you lefties have thin skin! I thought we were discussing the merits of Brian's apologetic moral relativism. "the TRUTH is unknowable." and your "perception is reality." Where do we even start with this? But thanks for making me feel unwelcome again, Lyle. Carry on within your own echo chamber. I'm losing interest.
GearHead September 28, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Lyle, ivory tower thinking (and obstinate unions) have led to failing schools with the highest per-capita spending. It isn't just the culture. Reality meets fuzzy thinking. Thanks a lot!
GearHead September 28, 2012 at 10:42 pm
No Brian, I don't like my big gun world, but recognize ignoring REALITY is both dangerous and futile. And professorial debate isn't even tolerated in most parts of the world. And women are subjugated. Heads chopped off...
Brian Carlson September 28, 2012 at 11:59 pm
GH it's reassuring that you don't like the big gun world. I fil to see why I m ignoring reality by trying to change the world... I see what we have, I don't like much of it, do not want to support what I see as decreative...and am doing something about it...however small my part. Why do you see this as ignoring reality. This is the same thing JB says to me.. And I say...I AM DOING SOMETHING...
Luke September 29, 2012 at 12:51 am
Brian, I didn't say that Hanson was the first to say anything. Rather, he did a good job of saying things that needed to be said, in ways that are easy to read and understand. The book by Hanson that I recommended contains much that he said elsewhere. Interestingly, it is actually an unfinished piece, because he died before he was finished with it. It was published anyhow.
T. S. Kuhn was inspired by Hanson's book to write The Structure of Scientific Revolutions. That article/book is worth reading. Kuhn borrowed from Polanyi and noticed the social element in science, which went beyond what Hanson had observed. Kuhn said that science does not so much build upon itself and evolve, but rather works towards a point where it appears to be broken and then a revolution takes place. He noted the Euclidean geometry explained all that it could but reached a point where it could explain no more, and then Newton came along with revolutionary paradigm. Likewise, Newtonian physics hit a dead end and then Einstein came along. Einstein came along and the next revolution was quantum mechanics, and so on....... The next logical step of each revolution was not based upon a logical deduction of the previous paradigm any more than you or I can deduce Newton from Euclid, or Einstein from Newton. Don't waste your time on Feyerabend.
Brian Carlson September 29, 2012 at 01:02 am
Luke...no I wasn't saying you said Hanson was the first...just quoting somethingI found that was interesting. inthough Einstein had said something similar. Anyway...it should be an interesting read. So Feyerabend is not worth a look? I kicked a title having to do with NO METHOD.... sounded like Bankei Zen.
Brian Carlson September 29, 2012 at 01:04 am
Luke, massive IPad write overs..... I thought Einstein..... I liked a title having to do....
Brian Carlson September 29, 2012 at 01:18 am
I don't believe that I am a moral relativist. I have said that the perception of reality is subjective.... Which might lead you to think that I conclude that whatever one believes is ok since we all see differently. I do not believe this. One reason I posted the Universal Human Rights doc recently was to say I believe in the effort to agree on universal principles so that laws may be established and enforced most particularly on the issue of human rights. This is not relativism I think.
Michael McClusky September 29, 2012 at 01:29 am
@Brian Carlson I am an ex-Republican, but I can tell you this: there is a social virus out there that is destroying peoples' lives by the millions. It is this insane desire by some powerful people to forever sit on a mountain of astronomical wealth and forever want that mountain to grow regardless of the consequences. The worldwide repurcussions of this is self-evident. Unless this virus dies, I see no great improvement on the world stage.
Luke September 29, 2012 at 01:35 am
Feyerabend was sort of an anarchist philosopher of science. I heard he is a good read while smoking weed. But since I've never smoked weed, I tried to like him anyhow.
Brian Carlson September 29, 2012 at 02:54 am
Michael M... I have to agree that the discrepancy between the extremely wealthy and billions of poor is a blight, a travesty and one of the great problems that face us.
GearHead September 29, 2012 at 09:50 pm
Brian, just because we rarely agree doesn't make me a bad guy. Someday an adult beverage is in order. I'm an omnivor that way, but guessing Lyle is into white wine. All good!
Brian Carlson September 29, 2012 at 10:09 pm
GH, you are on.

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